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2026-03-13 02:04:13 <Axman6> Is hackage down for anyone else? I'vew been getting Varnish errors since yesterday
2026-03-13 02:04:35 <geekosaur> currently under maintenance, previously decidedly iffy for over a week
2026-03-13 02:04:36 <Axman6> Apparently planned maintenance
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2026-03-13 02:14:07 <Axman6> Well at least local hoogle server works in this repo!
2026-03-13 02:16:14 <davean> geekosaur: yah we're moving boxes on it to one with more RAM.
2026-03-13 02:16:14 <geekosaur> fwiw I've been using Flora and Stackage for lookups. (Now if only the CI build that's currently stuck could…)
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2026-03-13 02:18:30 <geekosaur> also I think https://hoogle.mangoiv.com
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2026-03-13 03:44:44 <davean> Hackage is back up on a more properly sized but notably more expensive box. Pour one out for HF's wallet.
2026-03-13 03:49:48 <haskellbridge> <sm> great davean. How much ram now ?
2026-03-13 03:50:47 <davean> sm: doubled to 64GiB, slightly slower CPUs which might not be ideal but was what was available, but hackage's main issue is that it is an entirely in-memory DB (acid-state) so it eats RAM
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2026-03-13 03:53:20 <davean> Just loading the data off disk is 24GiB
2026-03-13 03:54:14 <haskellbridge> <sm> that should help a lot. Browsing feels good
2026-03-13 03:54:44 <davean> well, don't consider it solved yet, we need full load to return.
2026-03-13 03:54:50 <davean> but yes, it should
2026-03-13 03:55:00 <davean> its twice the RAM but its like 3x the cost now.
2026-03-13 03:55:42 <davean> Because thats how prices roll. We'll need a longer term solution or HF to figure out the bill long term. I'd prefer both frankly.
2026-03-13 03:55:50 <haskellbridge> <sm> I'm guessing.. $500/mo
2026-03-13 03:55:53 <haskellbridge> <sm> ?
2026-03-13 03:56:02 <davean> Right ballpark but short by a bit
2026-03-13 03:56:15 <davean> I think it is like $560
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2026-03-13 03:58:03 <davean> I'll be honest, if I had a budget I'd just have done this from the start, but money is tight.
2026-03-13 03:58:24 <davean> The spreadsheet had a "this might be good enough" next to the hackage line from the start
2026-03-13 03:58:35 <davean> and, it was, for a while, and it progressively got worse.
2026-03-13 03:59:01 <haskellbridge> <sm> +1
2026-03-13 04:00:08 <haskellbridge> <sm> I suppose there'll be another peak in about 20h where it's getting crawled or whatever
2026-03-13 04:00:44 <haskellbridge> <sm> good luck new hackage
2026-03-13 04:00:52 <probie> Move away from acid-state?
2026-03-13 04:00:54 <davean> watch it, but I honestly expect this to solve it mostly.
2026-03-13 04:00:59 <davean> probie: Thats a HUGE project
2026-03-13 04:01:11 <davean> I mean I did work on it, but then I had to plan an entire migration of all haskell infra
2026-03-13 04:01:14 <davean> and now I'm burned out :-p
2026-03-13 04:01:38 <haskellbridge> <sm> somebody might vibe code a rust rewrite
2026-03-13 04:01:41 <davean> I'm just starting to enjoy anything related to haskell again
2026-03-13 04:01:59 <davean> sm: haha. I have a runnign hackage core which can be multimaster :)
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2026-03-13 04:08:51 <geekosaur> you're free to fork and rewrite hackage-server; it'll be a lot of work
2026-03-13 04:09:40 <haskellbridge> <sm> well thanks for your work davean. Are you being compensated ? I hope so. (No intent to pry if that's not public info)
2026-03-13 04:12:04 <statusbot> Maintenance update: Hackage is back up and with more resources provisioned. -- http://status.haskell.org/pages/maintenance/537c07b0cf1fad5830000093/69b3665ff71ca90595aa36fb
2026-03-13 04:12:11 <davean> sm: lol no
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2026-03-13 04:16:42 <haskellbridge> <sm> feels like there ought to be more money in this ecosystem
2026-03-13 04:18:48 <davean> sm: well, we'd need better fundraising.
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2026-03-13 04:23:42 <haskellbridge> <sm> I know there's some great donors, but it seems not enough..
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2026-03-13 04:28:37 <haskellbridge> <sm> certainly we shouldn't be burning out unpaid maintainers of critical systems. If I become emperor, Haskell will be recognised as a distinguished world technology to receive at least sustainabilty funding.
2026-03-13 04:29:35 <haskellbridge> <sm> It can happen. I'll vision it. Not the emperor part.
2026-03-13 04:31:31 <haskellbridge> <sm> but people like jmct are here and have a much better grasp of the situation. Are we drastically underfunded given Haskell's value to humanity ? Or not so much ?
2026-03-13 04:32:10 <davean> jmct went to bed when hackage came back up
2026-03-13 04:32:36 <haskellbridge> <sm> +1
2026-03-13 04:34:01 <davean> Talk to jmct tomorrow maybe
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