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2021-08-23 20:42:46 <Tisoxin> themc47: hi
2021-08-23 20:44:29 <Tisoxin> (i wanted to speak to you about #593)
2021-08-23 20:50:36 <mc47> Tisoxin hey! I'm not around, you can write to me and I'll check it later
2021-08-23 20:50:41 <mc47> or on github
2021-08-23 20:54:37 <Tisoxin> Well, with a normall 1.16 config, xmonad just restarts the bar when i reload it with `M-q` doesn't it? (With a standard `main = xmonad $ myConf' =<< spawnPipe "xmobar"` config)
2021-08-23 20:55:45 <geekosaur> xmonad doesn't restart it, xmonad just goes away so the bar sees EOF and exits
2021-08-23 20:56:25 <Tisoxin> but xmobar somehow starts again after that, doesn't it?
2021-08-23 20:56:43 <geekosaur> the spawnPipe reruns when xmonad is restarted, yes
2021-08-23 21:03:06 <Tisoxin> Well, with X.H.StatusBar XMonad doesn't seem to start the bars by itself
2021-08-23 21:04:02 <Tisoxin> I have to manually execute `xmobar -x 0 $HOME/.config/xmobar/xmobarrc0` and `xmobar -x 1 $HOME/.config/xmobar/xmobarrc1`
2021-08-23 21:05:07 <geekosaur> I saw that but I really don't know much about the new stuff; I have to use the old becausse I use xmonad-log-applet
2021-08-23 21:45:53 <mc47> that's weird, can you provide your config?
2021-08-23 21:46:51 <mc47> either something is wrong or the documentation isn't clear enough
2021-08-23 21:47:23 <mc47> I remember that I ran xmobar with stdin logging for at least 2 or three weeks, and it was working fine
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2021-08-23 22:51:49 Tisoxin sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f494e871d2c1dfc908f56fc219f807106d8b1fa5
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2021-08-23 22:52:23 <Tisoxin> mc47: i think everything important should be in this config snippet
2021-08-23 22:53:55 <Tisoxin> * ```... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/e437dd3aadd9dbaf34f34a9d80aff553bcd96068)
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2021-08-23 23:27:57 <dminuoso> Hi. The middle mouse click, how does that actually cause text to appear in a given window?
2021-08-23 23:28:42 <geekosaur> selections are complicated
2021-08-23 23:29:53 <geekosaur> the program has to recognize some kind of "get the current selection" request (middle click, ctrl-insert, etc.), then negotiate with the holder of the current selection to agree on a type for it
2021-08-23 23:30:18 <geekosaur> then transfer the result, which it's up to the program to insert
2021-08-23 23:32:25 <dminuoso> I see. So if I middle clicked on a terminal, it's actually just the terminal that sets KeyPressMask in the event mask, and then interpreted the middle mouse click as a request to get XA_PRIMARY
2021-08-23 23:32:34 <dminuoso> Is this about right?
2021-08-23 23:33:20 <geekosaur> yes, roughly
2021-08-23 23:34:00 <dminuoso> Cheers, that's helpful.
2021-08-23 23:35:26 <dminuoso> Oh, and that'd be Button*Mask, for some suitable number Id have to look up.
2021-08-23 23:35:33 <dminuoso> Rather than KeyPressMask
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2021-08-24 01:57:48 <agonzal> #/eval /set weechat.bar.status.items ${weechat.bar.status.items},conky_CPU,conky_RAM,conky_Swap,conky_Up,conky_Down
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2021-08-24 03:02:57 <elonsroadster[m]> @Solid
2021-08-24 03:02:57 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
2021-08-24 03:03:29 <elonsroadster[m]> * Solid: where are you getting this idea that the functions are undocumented? They look documented to me.
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2021-08-24 04:06:43 <SimonWeiss[m]> Hi everyone! 👋... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/0a8e7ab1ff587cf99cd4c4204a530ef00d38988e)
2021-08-24 04:07:00 <SimonWeiss[m]> * Hi everyone! 👋... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/8ecad98ec6536e3418c5ab57fab2f57cfb8a8511)
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2021-08-24 05:22:04 <Solid> elonsroadster[m]: not the functions itself, I meant more the module as a whole
2021-08-24 05:22:21 <Solid> it contains a tiny example of how to use spacingRaw in some unknown configuration and that's about it
2021-08-24 05:25:15 <elonsroadster[m]> Solid just not sure I understand why you keep trying the undeprecation to documentation
2021-08-24 05:25:20 <elonsroadster[m]> Seems like separate concerns to me
2021-08-24 05:27:34 <Solid> I think you misunderstood me; I was saying that more documentation may help users to actually understand what spacingRaw is supposed to be and not trip up on it
2021-08-24 05:27:48 <Solid> this is orthogonal to undeprecating these functions yes
2021-08-24 05:28:04 <Solid> (but it still serves the same end goal of a more understandable module for users)
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2021-08-24 06:58:53 <mc47> Tisoxin it's weird that it doesn't work... I practically have the same thing
2021-08-24 06:59:09 <mc47> Can you check your X session logs?
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2021-08-24 07:42:40 <dminuoso> geekosaur: Thanks again. My issue was that in weechat with `/mouse enable`, the middle mouse buttom would keep pasting. I now realized that the raw mode that xfce4-terminal provides seems to be "broken", because it wont pass the middle mouse click through to the raw terminal application.
2021-08-24 07:42:54 <dminuoso> Switching to a different terminulator helped.
2021-08-24 07:43:20 <dminuoso> The more I deal with terminal emulators, the more disgusted I am, by the sheer inconsistency between all of them
2021-08-24 07:43:54 <dminuoso> Why cant I have a snappy lightweight terminal emulator with terminfo entries on standard linux installations, with support for ligatures?
2021-08-24 07:44:26 <dminuoso> Terminal emulators seem to have a choice: ["lightweight", "ligature support", "portable"] - pick two of them.
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2021-08-24 08:04:16 <Tisoxin> mc47: you don't mean ~/.xsession-errors, do you?
2021-08-24 08:05:02 <mc47> whatever xmonad's sdterr goes to
2021-08-24 08:05:35 <mc47> might be different depending on your
2021-08-24 08:10:29 <Solid> also make sure you are running a recent enough version of master
2021-08-24 08:10:40 <Solid> afair the restarting functionality was added a bit later
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