Logs: liberachat/#xmonad
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| 2026-03-22 19:25:02 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> liskin: Yeah, I'm definitely not ready for that :D |
| 2026-03-22 19:25:55 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> Maybe it's because I don't do this for a job (yet, I guess, with the current situation in academia…), but I was always a bit of a "the path is the goal" type of person |
| 2026-03-22 19:26:47 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> So using these things for most (all? some?) of my coding just feels like I should rather change the kinds of projects I'm working on, if they're that boring I want to outsource them |
| 2026-03-22 19:28:24 | <haskellbridge> | <Solid> That said, trying to clone "wayland-rs" does sound like something I might want to try next week-ish (from some preliminary tests it's not going super well though… it wanted to use "peek" and "unsafePerformIO" for reading the wire protocol from a bytestring :D Three more cleanup commits it is) |
| 2026-03-22 19:49:25 | <geekosaur> | write the core, aibro contrib? 😛 |
| 2026-03-22 19:51:10 | <geekosaur> | the real question isn't about protocols anyway, it's how do you replace things we use a lot but barely exist (if that much) in wayland. like ManageHooks really wanting Xrm foo that nobody uses even in the X11 world these days |
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| 2026-03-22 21:19:19 | <haskellbridge> | <galactic_starfish> Solid: For me, it's less boredom, more that I have so many ideas that implementation speed becomes a very real bottleneck. It's more of a design process, and less of a coding one. |
| 2026-03-22 21:19:22 | <haskellbridge> | I totally get enjoying the fine-grained details though. For the longest while I've enjoyed surmounting direct implementation hurdles. |
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| 2026-03-22 23:11:37 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> How does the default XMonad application launcher work? I'm using "XMonad.Prompt.Shell" to be my program launcher. How can I add new "*.desktop" files to it so that I can launch my own programs from the launcher? |
| 2026-03-22 23:35:06 | <geekosaur> | that doesn't use desktop files at all; it just throws it at the shell. you would have to extract the `Exec` line from a `*.desktop` file to see how to run it from the shell |
| 2026-03-22 23:37:53 | <geekosaur> | I don't see a prompt (or anything else for that matter) to use `xdg-open` to run desktop files. but you could probably run it directly (note that it takes a file to be opened and uses the desktop files to select an application; you don't run desktop files diretcly) |
| 2026-03-23 00:02:57 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Interesting. |
| 2026-03-23 00:03:09 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> Is there a different application launcher I can be using here? |
| 2026-03-23 00:10:24 | <geekosaur> | desktop files are designed to do two things: (1) pick an application based on the kind of file you want to open; (2) build desktop menus |
| 2026-03-23 00:10:46 | <geekosaur> | the first can be done with xdg-open from a shell; the second really isn't intended to be used by anything but desktop menus |
| 2026-03-23 00:12:27 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I see. Makes sense. |
| 2026-03-23 00:22:27 | <geekosaur> | also, because the menu stuff can be fairly complex, we'd probably have to link against a desktop environment to do it right |
| 2026-03-23 00:23:35 | <geekosaur> | and one of the complications is there can be per-desktop environment information we'd have to figure out how to deal with, especially if using the libraries from a desktop environment that interprets the additional information in ways we might not prefer/someone else would want a different DE's config for |
| 2026-03-23 00:26:20 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I see... That makes sense. |
| 2026-03-23 00:26:37 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> I'll probably just write a little shell script, dump it in ~ and call it a day. |
| 2026-03-23 00:32:02 | <geekosaur> | I personally would write an external program to parse/dump a menu using some desktop environment and feed it to dmenu or maybe build a GridSelect from it |
| 2026-03-23 00:37:59 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> It's just a single think that I want to be able to run. |
| 2026-03-23 00:38:54 | <haskellbridge> | <iqubic (she/her)> *thing |
| 2026-03-23 00:45:24 | <haskellbridge> | <ijouw> I believe rofi can read .desktop files if you want to use that |
| 2026-03-23 00:46:13 | <haskellbridge> | <ijouw> "rofi -show drun" |
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