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2026-03-14 21:35:08 <haskellbridge> <B​loodLines> Do I need to smack my router or is hackage having issues?
2026-03-14 21:46:29 <geekosaur> loading for me. it did change address recently, I think (hardware was upgraded, don't know f it kept the same ip)
2026-03-14 21:47:15 <geekosaur> yeh, both hackage and hackage-content load for me
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2026-03-15 08:08:31 <Leary> Do we care about ancient haddock failures or bad "lint" in contrib CI? I'm inclined to leave the "failing" checks on #977 as-is.
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2026-03-15 19:25:57 <haskellbridge> <B​loodLines> So with autostarting applications, I have two questions. So the first question is how can I have the application open on another ws at startup without the focus going to it?
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2026-03-15 20:10:08 <geekosaur> X.H.InsertPosition is what you're missing for the first one. I don't know what you can do about the second, since it's up to the app, not us
2026-03-15 20:10:49 <geekosaur> note that doShift and insertPosition interact; read the documentation carefully
2026-03-15 20:13:30 <haskellbridge> <i​jouw> A web search led me to believe steam supports a "-silent" option that does not spawn a window.
2026-03-15 22:19:11 <haskellbridge> <y​meister> Hey, was Reaver (https://isaacfreund.com/software/river/) already mentioned? (I've scrolled a bit of chat history and didn't see anything)
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2026-03-15 22:19:18 <haskellbridge> <y​meister> Hey, was Reaver (https://isaacfreund.com/software/river/) already mentioned? (I've scrolled a bit of chat history and didn't see anything)
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2026-03-15 23:08:49 <haskellbridge> <B​loodLines> Thanks ijouw I'll look into it tonight.
2026-03-16 01:38:09 <haskellbridge> <F​useteam> ymeister: wonder which DWM style window manager they are referring to, and/or it supports tags
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2026-03-16 05:23:51 <haskellbridge> <B​loodLines> honestly as far as DWM went, I prefered dusk which is a fork the guy that made the flexipatch did. still left it simple, but added a lot of just the basic functions you would need. I used it for ~3-4 years. Would still be using it but I was finally able to ditch kodi which was the only reason I was not able to use xmonad in the past.
2026-03-16 05:23:55 <haskellbridge> Oh, and supported per monitor workspaces out of the box
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2026-03-16 08:02:02 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> River looks pretty neat, actually, and, from a brief read, much like what liskin was envisioning in terms of composability and wm-restartability, though I guess we'd still need to write lots of utility libs that other languages just have libraries for
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2026-03-16 11:08:11 <haskellbridge> <y​meister> * River
2026-03-16 11:08:19 <haskellbridge> <y​meister> Hey, was River (https://isaacfreund.com/software/river/) already mentioned? (I've scrolled a bit of chat history and didn't see anything)
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2026-03-16 12:04:25 <liskin> Leary: we try to have CI green at all times, and we've spent some effort to make it not too difficult (like enabling some warnings on one version of ghc only) - I'm happy to have a look at what your PR needs later
2026-03-16 12:05:47 <liskin> I believe I have mentioned river in the past, although I don't think it was the same thing back then. This standardised wm protocol doesn't ring any bells in my head
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